Just wondering if US or Canada are still using Caribous for any purpose.
Cheers

"Pits" > wrote in message ...
>
> Just wondering if US or Canada are still using Caribous for any
purpose.
> Cheers

Known as the C-7 in the USAF (after they were taken over from the Army in
the late sixties), they have been out of service for a long time (early
eighties final retirement, IIRC). Very few served with the RCAF--they
instead bought more of the later turbine powered DHC-5 Buffalo. From what I
have read their Caribous left service in the early seventies, but I believe
they may still have a few Buffalos flying SAR.

Brooks

>
>

"Moose" > wrote in message
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> Hi Pits
>
> The De Havilland of Canada Caribou is still being used by the Royal
> Australian Air Force.
>
> Cheers...Chris

Thank you moose ( and we love them ) actually asked specific to USA and
Canada either civvy or Mil
Have to grin a bit at a moose answering a Caribou question :-)
Cheers and thanks

Hi Pits

The De Havilland of Canada Caribou is still being used by the Royal
Australian Air Force.

Cheers...Chris

Pits wrote:

> "Moose" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Pits
> >
> > The De Havilland of Canada Caribou is still being used by the Royal
> > Australian Air Force.
> >
> > Cheers...Chris
>
> Thank you moose ( and we love them ) actually asked specific to USA and
> Canada either civvy or Mil
> Have to grin a bit at a moose answering a Caribou question :-)
> Cheers and thanks

In the '80s, when I was still living about a mile from the Oakland
(California) airport, a civil Caribou suddenly appeared, and I used to hear
it pounding by heading eastward on a fairly regular schedule every week. I
don't know if it's still there or not, and I have no idea where it was going
or what it was hauling.

Guy

"Pits" > wrote in message ...
>
> Just wondering if US or Canada are still using Caribous for any
purpose.

I believe Canada must have enough flying, even in civilian applications, as
DHC produced a turbine conversion kit only a few years back.

Too bad the Australian Defence Force was too stupid to take up the
conversion. Payback is in year one. The conversion gives other improvements
but not the type I'd want to explore in an aging airframe. Of course, when
offered to the ADF they immediately seized on the faster, higher, heavier
idea but then scrapped the whole thing because of the stalled replacement
project (LTAC) was frozen and some day, one day, might actually be
announced.


--
The Raven
http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/batfinkquote.mp3
** President of the ozemail.* and uunet.* NG's
** since August 15th 2000.

In article >, "Pits" > wrote:

> Just wondering if US or Canada are still using Caribous for any purpose.
> Cheers
>
>

I think Greatland Aviation is still flying a couple of Caribous in
Alaska.

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

"Moose" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Pits
>
> The De Havilland of Canada Caribou is still being used by the Royal
> Australian Air Force.

With night vision capability.

"Tarver Engineering" > wrote:

>
>"Moose" > wrote in message
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>> Hi Pits
>>
>> The De Havilland of Canada Caribou is still being used by the Royal
>> Australian Air Force.
>
>With night vision capability.
>
Are you trying to be "useful", vermin? GET THE **** OUT OF HERE!

Grantland

"Grantland" > wrote in message
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> "Tarver Engineering" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Moose" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Hi Pits
> >>
> >> The De Havilland of Canada Caribou is still being used by the Royal
> >> Australian Air Force.
> >
> >With night vision capability.
> >
> Are you trying to be "useful", vermin?

Oz uses Skylight Avionics' NVG version of the IND-5000 on their Caribus.
The SAR mission of the Aussie Caribus got a nice capability increase with
the avionics upgrade.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 22:48:29 -0500, "Kevin Brooks"
> wrote:

>
>"Pits" > wrote in message ...
>>
>> Just wondering if US or Canada are still using Caribous for any
>purpose.
>> Cheers
>
>Known as the C-7 in the USAF (after they were taken over from the Army in
>the late sixties), they have been out of service for a long time (early
>eighties final retirement, IIRC). Very few served with the RCAF--they
>instead bought more of the later turbine powered DHC-5 Buffalo. From what I
>have read their Caribous left service in the early seventies, but I believe
>they may still have a few Buffalos flying SAR.
>

The US Army still had a two or three 'Bous flying in CONUS into the
'80s. Interestingly these went from Army to USAF and then back to
Army. They were used for AVCRAD support and there was at least one
was from an SF unit. Army 'Bous were also used quite late for range
support at Eniwetok.

The FAA civil registry as of today (2/17/04) shows one C-7A, 17
DHC-4s, and 34 DHC-4As. There may be some overlaps there.

Also I know a guy who saw a USG Buffalo (not a 'Bou) at Fort A.P. Hill
within the last five years being used for some sort of drop testing.

John Hairell )

"John Hairell" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 22:48:29 -0500, "Kevin Brooks"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Pits" > wrote in message
...
> >>
> >> Just wondering if US or Canada are still using Caribous for any
> >purpose.
> >> Cheers
> >
> >Known as the C-7 in the USAF (after they were taken over from the Army in
> >the late sixties), they have been out of service for a long time (early
> >eighties final retirement, IIRC). Very few served with the RCAF--they
> >instead bought more of the later turbine powered DHC-5 Buffalo. From what
I
> >have read their Caribous left service in the early seventies, but I
believe
> >they may still have a few Buffalos flying SAR.
> >
>
> The US Army still had a two or three 'Bous flying in CONUS into the
> '80s. Interestingly these went from Army to USAF and then back to
> Army. They were used for AVCRAD support and there was at least one
> was from an SF unit. Army 'Bous were also used quite late for range
> support at Eniwetok.

I thought they were using the DASH-7/8 for that support work.

>
> The FAA civil registry as of today (2/17/04) shows one C-7A, 17
> DHC-4s, and 34 DHC-4As. There may be some overlaps there.
>
> Also I know a guy who saw a USG Buffalo (not a 'Bou) at Fort A.P. Hill
> within the last five years being used for some sort of drop testing.

Up unitil about a year ago I lived within spitting distance of the A.P. Hill
DZ, before moving to the western side of Spotsylvania County. Saw lots of
C-130's doing drop work there, a few C-141's and C-17's, and a couple of
oddities (what looked like a CASA 212 and a Twin Otter); never personally
saw a Buffalo. Doesn't mean there wasn't one in the A/O--sometimes the more
shadowy types train on the base, not to mention the resident SEAL training
detachment.

Brooks

>
> John Hairell )

>> Also I know a guy who saw a USG Buffalo (not a 'Bou) at Fort A.P. Hill
>> within the last five years being used for some sort of drop testing.
>
>Up unitil about a year ago I lived within spitting distance of the A.P. Hill
>DZ, before moving to the western side of Spotsylvania County. Saw lots of
>C-130's doing drop work there, a few C-141's and C-17's, and a couple of
>oddities (what looked like a CASA 212 and a Twin Otter); never personally
>saw a Buffalo. Doesn't mean there wasn't one in the A/O--sometimes the more
>shadowy types train on the base, not to mention the resident SEAL training
>detachment.
>

Those special ops units have access to all kinds of interesting aircraft.


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)

"John Hairell" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 22:48:29 -0500, "Kevin Brooks"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Pits" > wrote in message
...
> >>
> >> Just wondering if US or Canada are still using Caribous for any
> >purpose.
> >> Cheers
> >
> >Known as the C-7 in the USAF (after they were taken over from the
Army in
> >the late sixties), they have been out of service for a long time
(early
> >eighties final retirement, IIRC). Very few served with the RCAF--they
> >instead bought more of the later turbine powered DHC-5 Buffalo. From
what I
> >have read their Caribous left service in the early seventies, but I
believe
> >they may still have a few Buffalos flying SAR.
> >
>
> The US Army still had a two or three 'Bous flying in CONUS into the
> '80s. Interestingly these went from Army to USAF and then back to
> Army. They were used for AVCRAD support and there was at least one
> was from an SF unit. Army 'Bous were also used quite late for range
> support at Eniwetok.
>
> The FAA civil registry as of today (2/17/04) shows one C-7A, 17
> DHC-4s, and 34 DHC-4As. There may be some overlaps there.
>
> Also I know a guy who saw a USG Buffalo (not a 'Bou) at Fort A.P. Hill
> within the last five years being used for some sort of drop testing.

FWIW, the RAAF still operate Caribous. They've just decided not to
replace them,
so they look like being around a while. Wallaby Airlines lives on....

The CO

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:01:31 -0500, "Kevin Brooks"
> wrote:

[stuff snipped]

>> The US Army still had a two or three 'Bous flying in CONUS into the
>> '80s. Interestingly these went from Army to USAF and then back to
>> Army. They were used for AVCRAD support and there was at least one
>> was from an SF unit. Army 'Bous were also used quite late for range
>> support at Eniwetok.
>
>I thought they were using the DASH-7/8 for that support work.

Caribous were used prior to that, and C-23s have also been used.

[more snipped]
>
>Up unitil about a year ago I lived within spitting distance of the A.P. Hill
>DZ, before moving to the western side of Spotsylvania County. Saw lots of
>C-130's doing drop work there, a few C-141's and C-17's, and a couple of
>oddities (what looked like a CASA 212 and a Twin Otter); never personally
>saw a Buffalo. Doesn't mean there wasn't one in the A/O--sometimes the more
>shadowy types train on the base, not to mention the resident SEAL training
>detachment.
>

CASA 212s are used by both the USAF and Army. The Army has used them
for specialized ELINT/SIGINT and special ops. The Twin Otter may be a
three-letter agency bird. They are also still using C-47s for drop
work.

John Hairell )

"John Hairell"
> CASA 212s are used by both the USAF and Army. The Army has used them
> for specialized ELINT/SIGINT and special ops. The Twin Otter may be a
> three-letter agency bird. They are also still using C-47s for drop
> work.
>
The Twin Otter was used for a couple of medical Antarctic rescue
missions in the dead of winter. The crews were from Edmonton Alberta. One
of the few aircraft capable of flying under these harsh conditions. Simple,
with less chance of freeze up etc.
Ed